Every investor that has money in managed funds or has thought of investing money with managed funds needs to read this.
Take look at this schematic published by the largest fund manager in the world, Fidelity.
The whole flyer can be found here:
https://www.fidelity.com.hk/static/pdf/investor/en/volatile-market/time_in_the_market.pdf
Note that it also had the backing of MorningStar and MSCI, two other names that I’m sure every reader of this blog would recognise.
The message on the flyer is this: if investors miss the best ten days in the stock market over an entire ten year period then their returns will drop from a total 68.9% absolute return to -4.64%. That is, just for missing a miserly ten days ALL the returns will be given back to the market, plus more. And it gets worse if the best 20, 30 and 40 days are missed. From around 2,500 days.
Therefore, try to time the market at your peril because the probabilities are very high that you will miss the ten best days. Conclusion, invest in a Fidelity managed fund!
Most would take this at face value without spending a nanosecond even questioning or further researching it. Even worse, they would probably propagate the misinformation to friends and family and argue this nonsense to the death if anybody questions them.
Them’s fighting words Stone, you had better be able to back-up these accusations!
I did the same exercise on the All Ordinaries. The outcome was similar to the MSCI World Index, as was the S&P500.
But in this investing caper one must always be objective and maintain a neutral mindset. This includes looking at the flipside of any notion. So I looked at what the outcomes would be if the ten worst days were missed.
Wow! There’s definitely a case for using timing to miss the worst days. At this stage it looked to me like the case was better for missing the ten worst days than not missing the ten best days. Which the next chart shows with a net better return if both the 10, 20, 30 and 40 best and worst days were missed.
What if we could miss the worst days and be in for the best days? So the next task was to determine when these best and worst days occurred starting with the worst days because missing them has a bigger net positive impact than missing the best days.
19 of the 25 worst days over the ten year period occurred during the 2008 bear market.
And 20 of the 25 best days over the same ten year period occurred during, you guessed it, the 2008 bear market!
Shock horror! The best and the worst days occur in very close proximity to each other so missing the worst days and being in the market for the best days is nigh on impossible. The research on the S&P500 over the same ten-year period showed exactly the same outcomes.
This also proves that the most important task for an equities (and ETF) investor in any investing timeframe, short, medium or long term, is NOT to be in for the best days but to miss the worst days in the market.
I wonder why Fidelity, Morningstar and MSCI didn’t tell us that in their flyer.
Is it because they didn’t do the research and didn’t know, in which case this is a good dose of incompetence (wonder if this is the same level of competence that they put into researching their portfolios?)?
Or they did know but decided to misrepresent the actual situation and disseminate misinformation with the express purpose of misleading investors.
I don’t know which is worse but they are definitely guilty of one or the other.
Check mate!
PS: it gets worse. When I went searching for the flyer I found this webpage on which Fidelity has a calculator that shows graphically what missing the best days in the market has on an equity curve.
http://www.fidelity.com.au/tools/investment-tools1/timing-the-mark/
Of course, they ONLY remove the BEST days and leave the worst days in. As you now know this is a misrepresentation of the highest order because they should remove BOTH the best and worst days to represent the data realistically because missing the one without missing the other is pretty much impossible, which they do point out but don’t include in the calculations.
5 Responses
Nice work Gary, thanks for posting the information.
I now use a market switch based on Quarterly + Monthly + Weekly price bars after repeatedly trying to pick the bottom in 2008!
Cheers Dave
Thanks Gary – excellent work. I used to have an account with Fidelity and saw this one some time back and thought how ridiculous it was. Even a basic knowledge of the market will tell you that short covering during bounces of a bear market will give you very big moves.
But the market will nearly always then make new lows, negating these big up days, so being “in the market” really did not help….
Cheers!
Hi Gary,
You might want to comment on what a poster is saying about your findings on managed funds & market timing, is he misrepresenting you?
The post in question is his last one #6363 right at the bottom of the page. http://forum.incrediblecharts.com/messages/427230/915471.html
Regards ST
Comment on Response to ST:
Thanks for pointing this out.
With the amount of posts that Ody has going and the tone of his writings he looks like one the perpetually perturbed people that pervades the internet and social media.
It appears, from reading his other posts that he and I are more on the same side than not but he too seems to have missed the point. Was the point not obvious in my posting? I thought it was obvious but misinterpretations so far suggest maybe not. Or is it just human’s flawed nature of seeing things through a biased prism?
I do accept that some people just want to take an opposing point of view without being objective about what they are reading or taking in and hence find something, anything, to oppose. I.e. they seem to be more aggressively minded than defensively minded.
I’ve read my posting a number of times and can’t anywhere see where I suggested or even hinted at the fact that it should be attempted to time the market on a day by day basis.
Anyway, I’ve written another journal for posting this this week (week starting 24th Nov) that makes it quite clear what my point was in the above blog to Philip Baker and hopefully Ody and all the others out there that missed the point.
Regards
Gary
Your point was clear to me, but some people appear to be perpetually having a senior moment.
Perhaps it would help if you were to use lots of block capitals in large font..!